Thursday, 8 April 2010

The right to offend, continued...



If you’re a regular reader of my blog you will have seen my recent entries about the R Word and OFCOM's stance on it's usage.

Well, here we go again.

Today I was forwarded a link to a blog, by none other than Emma the mother of Isla, aka the new Face of Kinder.

The blog she linked me to was by a lady named Sharon who is also a mother to a daughter with Down’s Syndrome.

You can read her account of events for yourself here but to sum up; Sharon went to see Frankie Boyle on tour. He spent a considerable amount of time making fun of people with Down’s Syndrome. She became unsettled. Her husband leaned in to check she was ok, at which point Frankie Boyle spotted them talking (they were in the front row) and asked them what they were talking about. When Sharon said that she had a daughter with Down’s Syndrome and had been upset by his jokes, Boyle became agitated and eventually ended up telling her he didn’t give a fuck.

Nice.

Hardly surprising though, given that the working title for his Channel 4 show is ‘Deal With it Retards!’

Anyway, the usual debate has been kicking off, both on Twitter and on the comments section of Sharon’s blog.

“But what is offensive material?” “How do you define offensive?” “Everything is offensive to someone surely?”

You know, the usual missing of the entire point.

For anyone who is still struggling with this idea, let me walk you through.

Offensive material has value when it has a point.

Offensive material can actually be quite brave and meritorious when someone is using it to explore an idea, explode myths or shock people to their senses.

In his latest show ‘Hitler Moustache’, Richard Herring took on the stance of a racist to explode racism. Something he did to great effect.

And his old comedy partner Stewart Lee can boast one of the most offensive lines of all time - “I vomited into the gaping anus of Christ”

However, it was said in the context of an incredibly sophisticated stand-up show, that intended to show up the hypocrisy of some people’s use of their religion to censor others. Thereby, and ironically, forcing people to test the limits of that censorship and perhaps go too far.

He also wanted to write a joke that Joe Pasquale couldn't steal.

As my other half, James, commented this afternoon, “When people like Bill Hicks or Doug Stanhope are deemed offensive there is usually some truth behind it which is why it is funny”

He always speaks sense. That's one of the many reasons he's good to have around. Makes me think there are still some sane people left...

So to conclude. Offensive + a point = merit

Offensive on its own = just plain offensive

So with that in mind, can someone please tell me what the point is behind mocking the disabled?

The actual point. No crap about free speech. I want you to break it down for me.

What have the disabled done that they need to be satirised for?

What awareness is being raised? What myth is being exploded? What idea is being explored?

Frankie Boyle’s Down’s Syndrome jokes do not have a purpose beyond getting a cheap laugh out of someone who cannot defend themselves, and are therefore barely on a par with someone making fart noises.

If these jokes were simply pointless, then maybe I could rise above them, but in addition to being worthless, they are also harmful.

They have the potential to cause unnecessary upset to the families of people with disabled relatives. And worse, they fuel negative attitudes towards the disabled that sometimes lead to bullying and violence.

Just look at this dossier of disability hate crimes and then tell me it’s a laughing matter: http://www.disabilitynow.org.uk/the-hate-crime-dossier

13 comments:

nicky clark said...

Brilliant this Blog should be recommended reading to the the "Oh it's PC gone mad again"brigade. Thank you Christina. best nicky xx

Christina Martin said...

Cheers Nicky.

Yeah, I get so sick and tired of that whole lazy 'PC gone mad' dismissal of legitimate complaints.

"Oh you can't say anything nowadays"

So you *want* to say retard? That's important to you? Why?

Grrr!

x

Chris Stokes said...

Brilliant post. I've tried to say much the same thing to people before, though not as articulately.

I often find myself defending a guy with severe learning difficulties who volunteers at the shop I work at and they just say, "It's only a joke."

The same people who were really vocal in their disgust at Ross and Brand over Sachsgate.

One rule for one...

Jean said...

excellent points...I also agree that to mock a group who are incapable of defending themselves is below cheap. XXX

Christina Martin said...

Jean - Thanks :) I wish more people thought like you x

And Chris - Cheers.
And well done for sticking up for that guy!
As with Jean, I wish more people were like you.
But I have to disagree re Sachsgate.
Someone leaving silly messages on Manual off Fawlty Towers' answerphone is the worst thing that has ever happened to anyone ever ;)
According to Andrew anyway!
Seriously, you raise an excellent point.
If you're going to be outraged on someone else's behalf, don't choose Andrew Sachs!
Why not get worked up about something legitimate. Or on behalf of someone who can't always defend themselves, i.e. the disabled!
Go figure...
x

Chris Stokes said...

Exactly. People's perceptions of what is actually offensive is all skewiff. Double standards abound. No wonder the waters are so murky x

dB said...

Thanks Christina. Keep fighting the good fight. I'll be pointing people over here to spread the good word.

p.s. any plans to come to Australia any time ever? The Melbourne Comedy Festival has a Christina Martin shaped hole in it!

asd070621 said...

Disabled people need to expose and shame the likes of Frankie-email/post/complain to anyone who is likely to give him a platform.ACT UP!

Christina Martin said...

dB - Cheers for the support :)
Re the comedy fest, I've actually quit stand-up now, but thank you for saying that x

asd070621 - For sure! Those disabled people who are able to speak up definitely should. It would be great to hear more disabled voices in the media. I think public service channels like the BBC are missing a trick (and not doing their duty) by not having more content by and for the disabled.
Sadly disabled people like my brother can't stand up for themselves (he is brain damaged) so it's up to the rest of us to protect them from bullying. x

faceless said...

Hi Christina,

I feel as if I already know you from the letters pages in Viz, so it's great to see that there's a lot more than pith in your arsenal!

I'm into what some people might call offensive humour, but can't stand to see people joking about 'retards' or anyone who is unlikely to be able to defend themselves.

cheers and all the best

Christina Martin said...

Hi faceless!
Cheers :)
Me too. I like Doug Stanhope, David Cross, Stewart Lee, Ricky Gervais, South Park...
All operate at the cutting edge but have enough wit and intelligence to avoid slipping into being merely offensive.
Proof that if you're smart and have a point you can go as close to the bone as you like.
Thanks again!
x

Fred said...

Which jokes did you find offensive?

Specifically. Which jokes?

Did you hear any of these jokes?

Are you sure they didn't have a point?

Are you sure they were without merit?

Christina Martin said...

Fred

Sure thing.

The jokes I found offensive were:

(a) That all people with Downs Syndrome wear awful clothes
(b) That all people with Downs Syndrome have crap hair; and
(c) That all people with Downs Syndrome have weird elderly parents

I also hear from Sharon that he mimicked the way they talk.

So in answer to your questions, yes I'm sure they didn't have a
point and yes I'm sure they were without merit.

They were inaccurate and unkind.

But it was not just the jokes.

I wouldn't have written this blog, and nor would Sharon have written hers, if he had not then gone on to compound it by saying "it's true though, everything I said is true" when challenged.

And then furthermore to sign off with "I don't give a fuck"

If he had just said "Oh shit, what are the odds - the parent of a child with Downs Syndrome in the first row. Sorry I was just pissing about" Then he could have redeemed it.

Just my opinion though.

Cheers

C